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Thursday, October 11, 2007
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Teacher - You are totally right about what you say. Some of the parents don't realize how bad it is. Even some of the kids who go to a youth group aren't angels. These parents want to start a nice little club but your right. The ones who will drink and do drugs will do it no matter what. plus most adults would just form some club that wouldnt appeal to what teens want. they dont know the music or the styles. theywould start to prohibit things that they dont like. xo was really for 18 and up who are adults, but you cant keep the under 18s from going in because it was a store they liked, plus 16 and 17 year olds sometimes hang out with older kids. they had the right idea on the vibe and what appeals to youth and a lot of parents would not like that vibe for theyre younger kids.so they might form something that they think is cool but the kids would see it as dorky. its not that these kids have nothing to do. Its what they choose to do that matters.
I think we are all talking about to big of an age difference for what we are trying to solve. If you group the young teens with the older teens your gonna have problems entertaining them all. However not all kids are into drinking and drugs and actualy enjoy doing things to help others even if it is playing games with the younger crowd. I know there is alot of very bad things going on out there in the world , I live in it everyday to. But we can shelter them from it if we realy try and no i am not talking about shoving them into a church youth group againts there will. (mine however do enjoy the youth group),. So to compare all kids the same would be wrong. If we just give up and say they will all be into that scene then sure they will! But hopefuly there is enough parents out there that will fight againts it.
Wow. The spammer sure wants us to drop this topic!
I am glad Teacher is helping point out the drug/alc problem with this age group. It is a terrible problem in all high schools including MCHS and other area schools. It is supposed to be even worse in Minooka.
The discussion about starting a place for high school kids isn't about a group of parents dictating the format of the place. The kids would be creating their own place with the help of adults who would know how to go about securing a location, getting it financed, etc.
The one poster was quoted who wanted to discuss the possiblity of a place where kids called the shots--with the obvious rules against illegal drug, alcohol, tobacco use, etc.--that goes without saying. Kids need to know they CAN have fun without being under the influence of mind altering substances. They really can! And this is also without bringing religion into the mix--let the churches take care of the relgious aspect.
If every kid isn't a substance abuser/user, then there are at least some kids who would take advantage of a nice, safe, drug free place to have fun, listen to music or whatever they choose for the theme of the week, for example, mentioned by the poster.
Surprisingly enough, if there actually was a drug free place for kids to go and have fun, maybe some of the fringe kids would choose to go to the drug free place rather than get wasted at some house party.
It isn't as easy as "they won't come so don't bother" and is worth intelligent discussion.
The anonimity of this blog may free up people to actually dialoge this problem if the spammer is out of the mix. It is not that FreeSpeech disagrees, spammer. Your goal is to distract from the discussion. This isn't about XO for 18 and above, this is about high school kids.
Gayle will have a lot more success with her venture where there are more people, colleges, etc. Morris isn't ready for that type business yet, too small. Entrepreneurs often have to relocate to more populated areas.
Before expressing an opinion, be warned that anyone who dares to criticize xo is a psychotic spammer. Anyone in favor of xo is thoughtful and progressive.
47 Why not open an internet cafe/dance club44 for teens? The problem there though is...freaky old people who are going to the "bad" things are going on. These freaky old people are the ones that have lived here their whole lives and maybe gone to Chicago once on a field trip. You people need to realize that this type of atmosphere (like XO) is commonplace in America today...it's just that, as with everything else, it takes it awhile to catch on in the collar communities. Something "cool" for kids opens up, and everyone freaks out.
I was at the football game last night. How many kids are in the high school? About 1000? Well, there were probably 200 there last night (maybe)...where were the other 800? THOSE are the kids I'm concerned about...20 years ago, we ALL went to the football game, because we were ALL from Morris (originally), and that's just what you did. Granted, most of us were drunk or stoned..but we were still there. Now, "they", who aren't "originally from Morris" could give a rat's ass about going to the football game...and are going to do their partying elsewhere.
Thank you anonymous 7:15, concerned parent and get rid of spammer. You hit it on the head. Our target market was never really high school kids. I have a 16 year old who is very active at CYC and I've known Nick and Amy for years. I respect what they're doing and support it 150%.
There is a difference between a freshman high school student and a college aged student. We started allowing all ages for our band events only because that was the feedback we got from many of the high school kids who came in there, as well as their parents. It was a hard call to make, as many of the juniors and seniors do socialize already with those out of high school. I tried to be discerning and left it up to the parent to decide if they wanted their kid in here. Every parent is different and I respect that.
I purposely placed XO where it is, because I knew the younger high schoolers wouldn't be able to get here (no licenses), without a parent. If I weren't moving and so busy with what I'm doing here, I would have loved to network and cooperate with the school or other parents in utilizing the space we had here to do something organized for the younger kids. But noone really approached me.
I also had thrown it out there that we could have used the space on Sunday afternoons for a kind of alternative church service that would appeal to young adults. Noone stepped up and I'm not a pastor.
I just want you to know what my motives were. I've raised 3 teenagers successfully I would like to think, because I try to maintain a balance between setting boundaries and allowing my kids to still be able to express themselves without condemnation. I've tried to do that with everyone who walked into XO, no matter what age and maybe that's why they came; they didn't feel judged.
I sincerely hope that something good comes out of all this dialogue. I don't blame the spammer. He's angry at "something" but I was never beyond discussing things rationally with people who had issues with XO. In fact I welcomed it. Again, I was never approached, but instead talked about behind my back. Ah well.
Let me know, while I'm still here, if there's anything I can do. I'd be willing to set up a meeting at XO so people could dialogue.
8:34 AM ,Could not agree with you more on all points made. If we have a place where the kids can get together under supervision then i think the kids will come. My oldest told me this morning she was bored and i sat there trying to think of something to do on a wet chilly morning that did not mean walking the mall and spending money. (I have seven extras in my house till they get on their feet so money is tight!) If there was a place for them to go and hang out with their friends they would love it. And a moment of peace and quiet in my home would be nice to. (That was just a joke) :)
ya know, I was thinking. Maybe you guys could lease out the XO space. Its not cheap though, but if you pool your resources it might work. We built a stage in there and I can't really take it with me.
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to the guy who was at the footballgame, only the jocks go there. a lot of us are not jocks and we have no imterest in sports. times have change from when you were in hs. the jocks and cheerleaders are some of the nastiest people in school and they judge everyone else and think their all that. people today have different interests.
I grew up here and went to mchs. You parents who want to start something, good for you, but it probably won't work. Other places that used to do stuff for teens also went out. The entertainment place on Illinois came and people complained. zedds came and people complained. XO came and kept it clean but people complained. As soon as you start something here there will always be some group of people that will oppose it. So you want to start a dance club. People will complain about the music and the girls dressing like whores because thats what a dance club environment brings. If you get the good kids in and want to also get the ones on the fringe, the parents of the good ones will complain about the bad element from the fringe kids. they cant even skateboard or ride their bikes on Liberty anymore because people complained. It's how this town is and always will be. They have nothing better to do.
12:24 It has been many, many years that bike, skates, skateboards were not allowed on Liberty Street. It is a matter of safety. Cars can't see skaters or cyclists coming down the street when they are backing out,etc. There are a number of reasons. Also, bike, skates and skateboards do not mix well with pedestrians on the sidewalks. It is common sense.
Sarah...first of all, I'm not a guy..and secondly...that's the point I was making: WE went to the games...now, the kids don't because the population is so much more diverse (in high school) that there's more people who don't care about supporting the school stuff, ie, sports.
Which goes along with the point the teacher is trying to make...the kids that are doing drugs and drinking...are gonna keep right on doing drugs and drinking....
10:01 you said '20 years ago, we ALL went to the football game, because we were ALL from Morris (originally), and that's just what you did. Granted, most of us were drunk or stoned..but we were still there.'
I would bet that most of the kids you saw at that game last night were in the same condition. See, that's how it works around here. The parents used to do it and then wonder why the kids do it. What's the difference if they're drunk and stoned at a party or drunk and stoned at an MCHS football game. It doesn't solve the problem.
My son was in band last year and told me that one of the band kids threw up at an MCHS game during the entrance march because he was drunk. He said the kid was staggering. And no adults or teachers noticed this?
What's with people trying to make an issue out of families who have been in Morris for x-number of generations? Most people I know who did grow up here, left and some point and returned to raise their family in a safe place.
The people I know who moved here from somewhere else came because of work. Those of you who work at any of the factories or power houses work with people who don't live in Morris. Apparently people living in Morris like it or they would move out of town; they are not stupid. That makes us all in this together, right?
So why do people bitch about the people who live in Morris? Look at the population here in say, 1960. Most people who graduated from MCHS left town for college and made their homes elsewhere.
The population is at least 3X what it was in 1960. Therefore a whole bunch of people left or died and were replaced by "newcomers" and people born to "natives." My guess is the largest percentage of pupulation is relatively new to the town--compared to some of the old families who were here in the 1960's. By the way, people have been booming here for generations to build the power plants, I-80, build and work at Mobil, build and work at the petrochemical places, etc. on east route 6.
Before you say 40+ years is considered "native" you will have to guess again. I have been friends with people for over 20 years who still want to play the game that they are not from Morris. But after 20+/- years, their influence has been felt in the community making the community what it is today.
See what I mean? We are all in this together.
The world has changed since the Leave it to Beaver days here in Morris and everywhere else.
Most of the crowded suburbs started out as small country towns. Look at the names of their high schools--Homewood-Flossmoor, Glenbrook, Glenbard, Riverside-Brookfield and so on. Sounds to me like they didn't have enough kids to make a high school--just like Mazon-Verona-Kinsman, now part of Seneca High School District. Coal City High School could be have been called Coal City-Diamond-Eileen-Carbonhill HS.
There isn't much more "culture" available in the burbs than there is around here when you take a look at it. The suburbs are not all that and a bag of chips either. There is more shopping and there are more wacky people, more drunks, more jerks, more drugs and more dopers.
Does anyone think the more education or money the parents have has much to do with the kids getting stoned (including drunk which used to be called stoned, back in the day). Look whose kids were dealing heroin at Joliet Catholic--not blue collar kids!
Kids drank booze at games in the 40's, 50's and 60's--not just here but everywhere. Morris is just a microcosm of the rest of the country. All the crazy stuff happens first on the E & W coasts but eventually makes its way to Morris and all the other small towns all over the country.
The people criticizing Morris ought to go out into the world and see what goes on in other small towns across the country. It is the same old same old everywhere you go. I have been fortunate to travel around the country in the last few years and small towns are small towns everywhere-north,west, east and south.
it seems to me that most of the bitching comes from those who have lived here a long time and don't like the newcomers moving in. At least that's my impression. It's a well known fact Morris is cliquey.
3:56 PM Could not have said it better! I to have been gone for years but came back here to raise my family. That should say something. And 6:52 PM stop saying we do not welcome newcomers because not all of us do. I personaly have not lived here all my life i grew up in New England but when i did move here in the late 70's in high School my family was very much welcomed. Oh and by the way want a good laugh? My entire school K-12 had like 900 students at the time. In Morris my graduating class had more then that! LOL
Good post on Sledge and comments on the city making it tough for businesses to get in here unless it's a crony.
12:58 they approved the bottoms up sign because ole BOB left the developement committee to own a bar (which by the way I heard he was kicked out). Ole BOB was probably hitting on all the barely legal sluts that frequent that place. What better way to get laid then to own a bar
9:39 To those bitching about Marta not being out at the airport anymore: You might want to ask yourselves which location would be the better spot to attract more customers--which translates into making more money--the Holiday Inn location with all the traffic from I-80 and 47, along with the local folks looking for a place to dine, or the more remote and less refined Morris Airport location?
Think about it!
Marta should be laughing all the way to the bank--if she is running the place the right way and serving decent food in a clean environment.
All the bitching about poor Marta being forced to locate at the Holiday Inn is silly from the business point of view.
ya gotta wonder adds this to clarify the last post--
9:39--my post was in response to the "unless it's a crony" comment in your post and referred to all the bitching taking place on sledgehammer about the airport restaurant, cronyism regarding the mamagement of the airport restaurant, etc.
That post had little to do with the more pointed topic of your 9:39 post--businesses trying to locate here.
We don't want just any business locating here.
Were you around a few years ago when the "rust factory" wanted to locate south of the river across from Hatcher Woods subdivision (as the crow flies)? The Powerful Forces didn't give one fig about the pollution to the area-in-general. When it was pointed out to them just where the rust-dust would be carried on the prevailing winds, they realized their homes in Hatcher Woods would be covered and filled with rust-dust creating an adverse environmental impact on their real estate. The Powerful Forces who lived in that subdivision--along with their Powerful Force buddies--stopped endorsing the rust plant and it was not allowed to locate here. They protected their real estate investment, their homes.
ALL businesses are not good business for the area. It is not worth sacrificing the health and well-being of the masses for a few jobs.
We want to attract business to the area while keeping an eye on future development of the area at-large along with the affect the business could have on the environment. If we arent' careful now, we could screw up things for the future.
I don't believe the mayor is anti-union! Unions are great in a place where they are needed !! Our public works boys had it made.. Until!! (tear)I should be doing that Job......
Donating to the needy? Just like the morris hospital 'ball'? They make about a grand after all their booze, food and room expenses. And if it was a public 'ball', why wasn't the general public invited. And why weren't the needy invited? Maybe Scott Breslar could donate meals to the needy. Maybe he could pay his employees more than he does if he's so concerned about the needy. His employees are needy. Maybe he could lower his prices on the over priced food he sells there. Maybe Warren could donate his 29,000 that he gets from the city with his biz ad give it to the needy. Those charity balls are nothing more than big drunk parties for the big fish in a little pond to make them feel all important and charitable. BULL CRAP.
"Donating to the needy?" Yes the needy the people that We Care of Grundy County helps. "Just like the morris hospital 'ball'?" This event is NOTHING like the morris hospital ball. "They make about a grand after all their booze, food and room expenses." You are incorrect at least for this ball. "And if it was a public 'ball', why wasn't the general public invited." They were it was open to anyone who wanted to make the $75 donation to attend, many who did are not your typical "public figures" "Maybe Scott Breslar could donate meals to the needy." Maybe he could but for sure he donated enough money that night to provide a few. "Maybe he could pay his employees more than he does if he's so concerned about the needy." Maybe they could earn it in tips like most wait staff. "Maybe he could lower his prices on the over priced food he sells there." He's in business too bad you didn't have the money or talent to do what they have but at least they give back to the community. "Maybe Warren could donate his 29,000 that he gets from the city with his biz ad give it to the needy." He's donated a good portion of that at many events if you had the class to give back like some of the people there do you'd know that. "Those charity balls are nothing more than big drunk parties for the big fish in a little pond to make them feel all important and charitable." BULL CRAP is right.Who are these big fish? Talarico a retired school teacher? Ann Wright another retired school teacher? I know it was the high school students that attended in their prom dresses that were big fish... wait maybe it was the CNN staff yes they are for sure high rollers in town. Again until you've been there and seen that don't speak of what you don't know.
4:18 What does this mean? What biz ad? Please educate us. "Maybe Warren could donate his 29,000 that he gets from the city with his biz ad give it to the needy."
To the merc, the following is a 3 step list to get back on the peoples good side. First take the sock out of your jock pee wee, your not fooling anyone. Next, understand the people see that you are nothing but a power hungry self promoting idiot, good luck on the board. Last follow reagan's eleventh commandment and try to work with fellow republicans. The GOP in Grundy is stronger than ever and your antics are destructive and only hurt the party. long live free speech
7pm, we only posted one of your spammish comments so as not to be redundant. Besides, they were mean as hell. I mean, c'mon, telling someone to jump off a building so Tracey and the boys on Ashton can scoop up the brains? That's sick. You're lucky we posted one of your comments.
I think their point 9:16 is that those "benefit" charity balls are a chance for the attention whores to be seen so the all the world knows how "charitable" they are. I know what Jennifers charges for meals and rental of that space. Tell me, were any of the needy families there? Have any of the needy families ever been to SB's steak and take? I highly doubt it. They can't afford it. What did Jesus say about charity??? Uh..something on the order of not letting your charitable actions be seen by others? Remember? They would have donated the same amount through a charity donation letter MINUS the expenses of putting on an elaborate drunk, party "ball". But, youre right, theyre apt to give more when the whole world is watching, so everyone can say what great people they are when we know what some of them are like when theyre not being watched by those that count. Hypocrisy. thats all it is.
One more thing 9:16. I DO own a business and I DO give to We Care. I just don't feel I have to parade my good deeds around and go to some "ball" to do it. I saved my $75 and ate at McDonalds that night.
Here it is: Matthew 6 Giving to the Needy 1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
2:40 if you want to play the religion card perhaps YOU should start with "judge not lest ye be judged" and just fyi there were needy people who qualify for we care's services there they were treated just like everyone else and fit in better then you'd imagine. Another fyi I didn't see anyone with an "elaborate drunk on". So yet again we have one speak about something they obviously know nothing about. I hope you at least put your change in the Ronald McDonald House bin at the McDonald's register where you ate.
You are exactly correct! The same crew that was at the ball are the ones who always are taking photo ops in the MDH. Just promoting themselves. What a joke. My wife and I on Thanksgiving drive to lower Wacker with homemade soup and sandwiches for the homeless. We remain anonymous because that is what Christ has taught us. All phonies at that ball parading around with their money pretending to be generous. Hypocrites!
Remember folks, you learned it here. If you don't follow the one true way of donating money and dare go to an expensive party at the same time, you are an evil hypocrite who should be looked down upon.
They always throw in the "dong judge" passage when their hypocrisy is exposed. Notice how 9:07 claims "there were needy people who qualify for we care's services there they were treated just like everyone else and fit in better then you'd imagine." Oh how wonderful of you 9:07. Arent you the good samaritan to allow these people to "fit in". Ten to one you don't socialize with any of these people and never have outside of your "ball". I doubt if they'd be invited to YOUR house on Thanksgiving or Christmas or any other time of the year. It's so much easier to go to a fancy dress up ball and show the world how wonderful you are, holding a vodka and tonic in your hand and getting your pic taken for CNN and the MDH. Jesus judged hypocrisy (read Matthew 23 sometime) and called it for what it was. I'm not judging you, I'm just calling this for what it really is - hypocrisy.
1:23 and 9:21 I don't drink alcohol there was no vodka and tonic or any other drink in my hand other then water.
Last Thanksgiving I did have a homeless person to my house dining with us at our table I didn't deliver the meal to her on the street I welcomed her in my home and sat her next to my mother the matriarch of our family that is responsible for teaching me charity.
And did you ever think that I might be the one at the ball who is eligible for We Care services? of course you didn't you just sat back in your cozy home and judged me and others that you don't know.
IF you don't care for the judge not lest ye be judged then fine keep calling ME and those giving to a good cause hypocrites while you call yourself a "Christian" and sit there putting down strangers and acting in such a Christ like manner.
Perhaps you should write to MDH and let them know they shouldn't run photographs of anyone who dares have a good time while being charitable maybe they can come grab a photograph of you and your buddies at Claytons or McDonalds.
ok 4:06 so YOURE the exception. I'm glad. Honestly, I wasnt referring those comments to YOU personally, since I don't know who YOU are personally...but I DO know some of the others personally and I stand by what I said.
How about the simple and achievable: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
4:06 Where did you find your homeless person in Morris? When you found a homeless woman, did you take steps to find her clean, safe shelter? clean clothes? help her find a job? get her psychological help?
After Thanksgiving dinner where she sat next to your mother, did you take her back to her cardboard box? Where did you take her?
These are just questions, not attacks, by the way. I am just curious, not judging.
It's the plight of the infamous "chreasters", those who are great Christians during Christmas and Easter (and Thanksgiving), but go on and about their daily affluent lives the rest of the year. It's a great ego feed not to mention a way to earn your "little gold stars" with God. Yep, hypocrisy
6:15...just to make you aware, there ARE homeless people here in Morris...and there IS an organization...P.A.D.S. that helps the homeless. I find it very sad that here in our small town we have homeless living under the river bridge (fact not fiction) but yet we aren't aware. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
I went to the "Ball". I had fun with my friends. It was nice to get dressed up and be away from the kids for an evening. Why is everyone making such a big deal about it?
6:15 I never said I found the homeless person in Morris not everyone from Morris still lives there and not everyone in Morris lived here a year ago. However there is indeed homeless people in Morris they sleep in staircases and under the bridge when it is cold. When they have a bit of money together they may stay at one of the motels in town but that is not home and they are indeed homeless just happen to have a roof over their head for a few nights. Heck ask one of the county deputies what they do with them when the encounter them. (They escort them out of the county supposedly so they can get to a homeless shelter but perhaps more so the happy people can continue to deny there is a problem in their fair city that needs addressing) Just in case you are seriously curious and wondering how we helped her we got her into a women's shelter and I got her a job where I worked. She owned clothes and the car she had been staying in or I would have helped with that also. Unfortunately we have lost touch with her after her second paycheck she left the area saying she was going back to California where she had once lived and still had friends. Whether or not she did we have no idea we have never heard from her again. I will say that knowing her and helping her taught my family and my children important lessons and my children's Christmas list was much smaller after that. It's quite humbling to be complaining about bills one day and meet someone that wishes they had a house with bills the next.
10:43 There have been homeless in Morris for many years, and yes, some have lived under the bridge, or in that general area. I know a woman who actually took a young homeless woman into her home and tried to help her in every way. It turned out the young homeless woman had issues with drugs, mental illness, stealing, violence, etc. It ended up being a whole lot more than one would imagine. The young homeless woman did get help from the proper authorities which included a stay in a mental institution, if I remember this correctly. It was at least 20 years ago. There have always been drunks who passed out in doorways in the heat of summer and frozen winter who are not homeless but just couldn't make it home conscious. Sometimes these are people who have a lot of money but are alcoholics.
The questions were directed at 4:06. I still want to know the answers: Where did 4:06 find the homeless person, were any steps taken to aid the homeless person--a shower, clean clothes, shelter, a phone call to PADS? Were steps taken to help the homeless person get a job to lead to self-support? These are legitimate questions.
Did 4:06 take the homeless person back to the cardboard box, shopping cart, whatever?
Seriously, 4:06, what are the answers? The answers could help those of us who are driving around looking for a homeless person we might be able to help. Dontcha think?
it is so good to see that adults in the morris community actually care about what the teens are doing. though it is too bad that it had to come after a band of idiots waved a flag. i grew up in morris, my mom was born and raised and still lives there, i on the other had left, though i have nothing against morris for me it was the idea of raising my daughter and soon to be baby in a town that cares more about politics then our children, i saw it as a student of district 54 and 101, when was in school i know that my friends and i just wanted a safe place to hang out, it didnt matter who ran it. if you turly want to find a soultion for the teens not having a place to go, you need to start with talking to the teens and finding out what they want, and put it together in safe enviorment
KEVIN FOX IS GUILTY. What father would ever confess to murdering his own daughter, no matter what kind of pressure is on him from the police, IF HE DIDN'T DO IT. Pull out my finger nails or pop out my eyeballs. No father would admit to it... HE KNOWS SOMETHING!
my assessment went up 7%!!!! This is total BULLS%&T. I thought the assessment reflected property values, which have leveled off or even dropped. All the assessment reflects is how much more the bureaucrats want of YOUR MONEY.
Wow. This is really really pathetic. Reading these posts I really understand where some of these kids get there ignorance and stupidity from. Parents. And Don't get me wrong, it seems alot of you really care about your kids and really look out for them, but why so many names being called? I'm 17 years old (and I'm sure since I said my age people wont bother to actually read past this point) and I know better than to act so ignorant. Especially behind a computer screen. I feel more mature than the half of the adults on this site. And honestly that just stumps me. I know who ever the "spammer" is, has to be around my age, and if not then that's REALLY ridiculous. But let me just say that you're making yourself look incredibly DUMB. And I'm not name calling here, I'm just pointing it out because it's true. If you want to act so tough and cool post your name. "Anonymous" just makes you out to be a puss. As for teens being bored in this town, it's true, the less there is to do in this town the more every teen out there is tempted to drink or get high. And whether you think your child is a little angel or not, MOST of them aren't. You can keep an eye on them as good as possible and most of them are going to find ways around it. NOT saying all teens are like that. But quite a few. As for you saying not all kids like sports, it's true. But some do. Perhaps get them there sports, but you have to realize that you have to cover art, music, theater as well as sports. And as for XO leaving, it's a real shame. Gayle worked her ass off to create a great environment for kids to hang, whether they had money or not. You could hang there and read, listen to music, and just talk. It gives kids something to do. Not every kid can afford 12 bucks to bowl.. or 7 bucks to go see a movie. Gayle was nice enough to let people come in money or not. She was nice enough to let kids hang, but she had rules and she enforced them. I don't think people understand that. They just hear "hookah" or "alterative" and automatically think it's bad. I'll tell you, I have friends that range from "preppy" to "punk" to "goth" to god knows what else. Just because a person dresses one way doesnt make them bad or good. That's why I dislike this town. It runs off of ignorance. I don't get me started on the "rednecks". They have so much to prove in a town with all white folks. Matt "Clucker" has lived in small town USA his whole life, no, not just morris, but even smaller towns, He hasn't lived around black people. He just learned his bullshit from his grandfather. Who also probably hasn't been around black people. So let's not "Stop Nigs" Lets Stop all the god damned ignorance. It just makes people look STUPID. Very stupid. Yes, this was long. Oh well.
OK, so dicky will have Belt submit bills as Bates. I don't have the data. What about all the people that have these figures? Why don't you forward them to the Attorny general and do something?!?!?
Whoever is robbing these stores is obviously an amateur. They broke both front doors at Snook to gain entry instead of just one---probably a desperate drug dealer.
BTW: I don’t know what you are trying to say about the local media. Hiding something? Come on. The radio station has had something almost everyday since they started happening. Maybe it’s the hamburglar.
hey, how do you all like the newfound graffiti down underneath our river bridge???? thats the kinda crap that happens when you allow gangs into this town
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 683 of 683good riddance to xo
meh, it's just the insane spammer again. Could we change the subject please?
That spammer seems psychotic - Just another wimp hiding behind a computer screen ruining it for eveyrone else.
Teacher - You are totally right about what you say. Some of the parents don't realize how bad it is. Even some of the kids who go to a youth group aren't angels. These parents want to start a nice little club but your right. The ones who will drink and do drugs will do it no matter what. plus most adults would just form some club that wouldnt appeal to what teens want. they dont know the music or the styles. theywould start to prohibit things that they dont like. xo was really for 18 and up who are adults, but you cant keep the under 18s from going in because it was a store they liked, plus 16 and 17 year olds sometimes hang out with older kids. they had the right idea on the vibe and what appeals to youth and a lot of parents would not like that vibe for theyre younger kids.so they might form something that they think is cool but the kids would see it as dorky. its not that these kids have nothing to do. Its what they choose to do that matters.
I think we are all talking about to big of an age difference for what we are trying to solve. If you group the young teens with the older teens your gonna have problems entertaining them all. However not all kids are into drinking and drugs and actualy enjoy doing things to help others even if it is playing games with the younger crowd. I know there is alot of very bad things going on out there in the world , I live in it everyday to. But we can shelter them from it if we realy try and no i am not talking about shoving them into a church youth group againts there will. (mine however do enjoy the youth group),. So to compare all kids the same would be wrong. If we just give up and say they will all be into that scene then sure they will! But hopefuly there is enough parents out there that will fight againts it.
Wow. The spammer sure wants us to drop this topic!
I am glad Teacher is helping point out the drug/alc problem with this age group. It is a terrible problem in all high schools including MCHS and other area schools. It is supposed to be even worse in Minooka.
The discussion about starting a place for high school kids isn't about a group of parents dictating the format of the place. The kids would be creating their own place with the help of adults who would know how to go about securing a location, getting it financed, etc.
The one poster was quoted who wanted to discuss the possiblity of a place where kids called the shots--with the obvious rules against illegal drug, alcohol, tobacco use, etc.--that goes without saying. Kids need to know they CAN have fun without being under the influence of mind altering substances. They really can! And this is also without bringing religion into the mix--let the churches take care of the relgious aspect.
If every kid isn't a substance abuser/user, then there are at least some kids who would take advantage of a nice, safe, drug free place to have fun, listen to music or whatever they choose for the theme of the week, for example, mentioned by the poster.
Surprisingly enough, if there actually was a drug free place for kids to go and have fun, maybe some of the fringe kids would choose to go to the drug free place rather than get wasted at some house party.
It isn't as easy as "they won't come so don't bother" and is worth intelligent discussion.
The anonimity of this blog may free up people to actually dialoge this problem if the spammer is out of the mix. It is not that FreeSpeech disagrees, spammer. Your goal is to distract from the discussion. This isn't about XO for 18 and above, this is about high school kids.
Gayle will have a lot more success with her venture where there are more people, colleges, etc. Morris isn't ready for that type business yet, too small. Entrepreneurs often have to relocate to more populated areas.
Before expressing an opinion, be warned that anyone who dares to criticize xo is a psychotic spammer. Anyone in favor of xo is thoughtful and progressive.
47 Why not open an internet cafe/dance club44 for teens? The problem there though is...freaky old people who are going to the "bad" things are going on. These freaky old people are the ones that have lived here their whole lives and maybe gone to Chicago once on a field trip. You people need to realize that this type of atmosphere (like XO) is commonplace in America today...it's just that, as with everything else, it takes it awhile to catch on in the collar communities. Something "cool" for kids opens up, and everyone freaks out.
I was at the football game last night. How many kids are in the high school? About 1000? Well, there were probably 200 there last night (maybe)...where were the other 800? THOSE are the kids I'm concerned about...20 years ago, we ALL went to the football game, because we were ALL from Morris (originally), and that's just what you did. Granted, most of us were drunk or stoned..but we were still there. Now, "they", who aren't "originally from Morris" could give a rat's ass about going to the football game...and are going to do their partying elsewhere.
Thank you anonymous 7:15, concerned parent and get rid of spammer. You hit it on the head. Our target market was never really high school kids. I have a 16 year old who is very active at CYC and I've known Nick and Amy for years. I respect what they're doing and support it 150%.
There is a difference between a freshman high school student and a college aged student. We started allowing all ages for our band events only because that was the feedback we got from many of the high school kids who came in there, as well as their parents. It was a hard call to make, as many of the juniors and seniors do socialize already with those out of high school. I tried to be discerning and left it up to the parent to decide if they wanted their kid in here. Every parent is different and I respect that.
I purposely placed XO where it is, because I knew the younger high schoolers wouldn't be able to get here (no licenses), without a parent. If I weren't moving and so busy with what I'm doing here, I would have loved to network and cooperate with the school or other parents in utilizing the space we had here to do something organized for the younger kids. But noone really approached me.
I also had thrown it out there that we could have used the space on Sunday afternoons for a kind of alternative church service that would appeal to young adults. Noone stepped up and I'm not a pastor.
I just want you to know what my motives were. I've raised 3 teenagers successfully I would like to think, because I try to maintain a balance between setting boundaries and allowing my kids to still be able to express themselves without condemnation. I've tried to do that with everyone who walked into XO, no matter what age and maybe that's why they came; they didn't feel judged.
I sincerely hope that something good comes out of all this dialogue. I don't blame the spammer. He's angry at "something" but I was never beyond discussing things rationally with people who had issues with XO. In fact I welcomed it. Again, I was never approached, but instead talked about behind my back. Ah well.
Let me know, while I'm still here, if there's anything I can do. I'd be willing to set up a meeting at XO so people could dialogue.
8:34 AM ,Could not agree with you more on all points made. If we have a place where the kids can get together under supervision then i think the kids will come. My oldest told me this morning she was bored and i sat there trying to think of something to do on a wet chilly morning that did not mean walking the mall and spending money. (I have seven extras in my house till they get on their feet so money is tight!) If there was a place for them to go and hang out with their friends they would love it. And a moment of peace and quiet in my home would be nice to. (That was just a joke) :)
ya know, I was thinking. Maybe you guys could lease out the XO space. Its not cheap though, but if you pool your resources it might work. We built a stage in there and I can't really take it with me.
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to the guy who was at the footballgame, only the jocks go there. a lot of us are not jocks and we have no imterest in sports. times have change from when you were in hs. the jocks and cheerleaders are some of the nastiest people in school and they judge everyone else and think their all that. people today have different interests.
I grew up here and went to mchs. You parents who want to start something, good for you, but it probably won't work. Other places that used to do stuff for teens also went out. The entertainment place on Illinois came and people complained. zedds came and people complained. XO came and kept it clean but people complained. As soon as you start something here there will always be some group of people that will oppose it. So you want to start a dance club. People will complain about the music and the girls dressing like whores because thats what a dance club environment brings. If you get the good kids in and want to also get the ones on the fringe, the parents of the good ones will complain about the bad element from the fringe kids. they cant even skateboard or ride their bikes on Liberty anymore because people complained. It's how this town is and always will be. They have nothing better to do.
yea and then they complain there's nothing for the kids to do lol
12:24 It has been many, many years that bike, skates, skateboards were not allowed on Liberty Street. It is a matter of safety. Cars can't see skaters or cyclists coming down the street when they are backing out,etc. There are a number of reasons. Also, bike, skates and skateboards do not mix well with pedestrians on the sidewalks. It is common sense.
what happened to our posts????
Sarah...first of all, I'm not a guy..and secondly...that's the point I was making: WE went to the games...now, the kids don't because the population is so much more diverse (in high school) that there's more people who don't care about supporting the school stuff, ie, sports.
Which goes along with the point the teacher is trying to make...the kids that are doing drugs and drinking...are gonna keep right on doing drugs and drinking....
10:01 you said '20 years ago, we ALL went to the football game, because we were ALL from Morris (originally), and that's just what you did. Granted, most of us were drunk or stoned..but we were still there.'
I would bet that most of the kids you saw at that game last night were in the same condition. See, that's how it works around here. The parents used to do it and then wonder why the kids do it. What's the difference if they're drunk and stoned at a party or drunk and stoned at an MCHS football game. It doesn't solve the problem.
My son was in band last year and told me that one of the band kids threw up at an MCHS game during the entrance march because he was drunk. He said the kid was staggering. And no adults or teachers noticed this?
What's with people trying to make an issue out of families who have been in Morris for x-number of generations? Most people I know who did grow up here, left and some point and returned to raise their family in a safe place.
The people I know who moved here from somewhere else came because of work. Those of you who work at any of the factories or power houses work with people who don't live in Morris. Apparently people living in Morris like it or they would move out of town; they are not stupid. That makes us all in this together, right?
So why do people bitch about the people who live in Morris? Look at the population here in say, 1960. Most people who graduated from MCHS left town for college and made their homes elsewhere.
The population is at least 3X what it was in 1960. Therefore a whole bunch of people left or died and were replaced by "newcomers" and people born to "natives." My guess is the largest percentage of pupulation is relatively new to the town--compared to some of the old families who were here in the 1960's. By the way, people have been booming here for generations to build the power plants, I-80, build and work at Mobil, build and work at the petrochemical places, etc. on east route 6.
Before you say 40+ years is considered "native" you will have to guess again. I have been friends with people for over 20 years who still want to play the game that they are not from Morris. But after 20+/- years, their influence has been felt in the community making the community what it is today.
See what I mean? We are all in this together.
The world has changed since the Leave it to Beaver days here in Morris and everywhere else.
Most of the crowded suburbs started out as small country towns. Look at the names of their high schools--Homewood-Flossmoor, Glenbrook, Glenbard, Riverside-Brookfield and so on. Sounds to me like they didn't have enough kids to make a high school--just like Mazon-Verona-Kinsman, now part of Seneca High School District. Coal City High School could be have been called Coal City-Diamond-Eileen-Carbonhill HS.
There isn't much more "culture" available in the burbs than there is around here when you take a look at it. The suburbs are not all that and a bag of chips either. There is more shopping and there are more wacky people, more drunks, more jerks, more drugs and more dopers.
Does anyone think the more education or money the parents have has much to do with the kids getting stoned (including drunk which used to be called stoned, back in the day). Look whose kids were dealing heroin at Joliet Catholic--not blue collar kids!
Kids drank booze at games in the 40's, 50's and 60's--not just here but everywhere. Morris is just a microcosm of the rest of the country. All the crazy stuff happens first on the E & W coasts but eventually makes its way to Morris and all the other small towns all over the country.
The people criticizing Morris ought to go out into the world and see what goes on in other small towns across the country. It is the same old same old everywhere you go. I have been fortunate to travel around the country in the last few years and small towns are small towns everywhere-north,west, east and south.
3:56...very well said. Thanks!!
it seems to me that most of the bitching comes from those who have lived here a long time and don't like the newcomers moving in. At least that's my impression. It's a well known fact Morris is cliquey.
3:56 PM Could not have said it better! I to have been gone for years but came back here to raise my family. That should say something. And 6:52 PM stop saying we do not welcome newcomers because not all of us do. I personaly have not lived here all my life i grew up in New England but when i did move here in the late 70's in high School my family was very much welcomed. Oh and by the way want a good laugh? My entire school K-12 had like 900 students at the time. In Morris my graduating class had more then that! LOL
Good post on Sledge and comments on the city making it tough for businesses to get in here unless it's a crony.
12:58 they approved the bottoms up sign because ole BOB left the developement committee to own a bar (which by the way I heard he was kicked out). Ole BOB was probably hitting on all the barely legal sluts that frequent that place. What better way to get laid then to own a bar
Who is Bob that owns Bottomz Up??
9:39 To those bitching about Marta not being out at the airport anymore: You might want to ask yourselves which location would be the better spot to attract more customers--which translates into making more money--the Holiday Inn location with all the traffic from I-80 and 47, along with the local folks looking for a place to dine, or the more remote and less refined Morris Airport location?
Think about it!
Marta should be laughing all the way to the bank--if she is running the place the right way and serving decent food in a clean environment.
All the bitching about poor Marta being forced to locate at the Holiday Inn is silly from the business point of view.
ya gotta wonder adds this to clarify the last post--
9:39--my post was in response to the "unless it's a crony" comment in your post and referred to all the bitching taking place on sledgehammer about the airport restaurant, cronyism regarding the mamagement of the airport restaurant, etc.
That post had little to do with the more pointed topic of your 9:39 post--businesses trying to locate here.
We don't want just any business locating here.
Were you around a few years ago when the "rust factory" wanted to locate south of the river across from Hatcher Woods subdivision (as the crow flies)? The Powerful Forces didn't give one fig about the pollution to the area-in-general. When it was pointed out to them just where the rust-dust would be carried on the prevailing winds, they realized their homes in Hatcher Woods would be covered and filled with rust-dust creating an adverse environmental impact on their real estate. The Powerful Forces who lived in that subdivision--along with their Powerful Force buddies--stopped endorsing the rust plant and it was not allowed to locate here. They protected their real estate investment, their homes.
ALL businesses are not good business for the area. It is not worth sacrificing the health and well-being of the masses for a few jobs.
We want to attract business to the area while keeping an eye on future development of the area at-large along with the affect the business could have on the environment. If we arent' careful now, we could screw up things for the future.
Yes the band member was noticed and two were suspended for their drinking activities at a school function.
I don't believe the mayor is anti-union! Unions are great in a place where they are needed !! Our public works boys had it made.. Until!! (tear)I should be doing that Job......
Oh I'm SO sorry I missed the BALL. It looked like a great time. Fat chicks and ugly old guys. All the important people of morris.
wow where did the conversation go?
That's what happens to us when we get old--we all get short, fat and bald! ;-)
to 5:07 does it matter what one looks like when they are donating to charity that is providing for the needy residents of Grundy County? I think not.
Donating to the needy? Just like the morris hospital 'ball'? They make about a grand after all their booze, food and room expenses. And if it was a public 'ball', why wasn't the general public invited. And why weren't the needy invited? Maybe Scott Breslar could donate meals to the needy. Maybe he could pay his employees more than he does if he's so concerned about the needy. His employees are needy. Maybe he could lower his prices on the over priced food he sells there. Maybe Warren could donate his 29,000 that he gets from the city with his biz ad give it to the needy. Those charity balls are nothing more than big drunk parties for the big fish in a little pond to make them feel all important and charitable. BULL CRAP.
4:18 jealously doesn't become you. Cheer up.
"Donating to the needy?"
Yes the needy the people that We Care of Grundy County helps.
"Just like the morris hospital 'ball'?"
This event is NOTHING like the morris hospital ball.
"They make about a grand after all their booze, food and room expenses."
You are incorrect at least for this ball.
"And if it was a public 'ball', why wasn't the general public invited."
They were it was open to anyone who wanted to make the $75 donation to attend, many who did are not your typical "public figures"
"Maybe Scott Breslar could donate meals to the needy."
Maybe he could but for sure he donated enough money that night to provide a few.
"Maybe he could pay his employees more than he does if he's so concerned about the needy."
Maybe they could earn it in tips like most wait staff.
"Maybe he could lower his prices on the over priced food he sells there."
He's in business too bad you didn't have the money or talent to do what they have but at least they give back to the community.
"Maybe Warren could donate his 29,000 that he gets from the city with his biz ad give it to the needy."
He's donated a good portion of that at many events if you had the class to give back like some of the people there do you'd know that.
"Those charity balls are nothing more than big drunk parties for the big fish in a little pond to make them feel all important and charitable."
BULL CRAP is right.Who are these big fish? Talarico a retired school teacher? Ann Wright another retired school teacher? I know it was the high school students that attended in their prom dresses that were big fish... wait maybe it was the CNN staff yes they are for sure high rollers in town.
Again until you've been there and seen that don't speak of what you don't know.
4:18
What does this mean? What biz ad?
Please educate us.
"Maybe Warren could donate his 29,000 that he gets from the city with his biz ad give it to the needy."
To the merc, the following is a 3 step list to get back on the peoples good side.
First take the sock out of your jock pee wee, your not fooling anyone.
Next, understand the people see that you are nothing but a power hungry self promoting idiot, good luck on the board.
Last follow reagan's eleventh commandment and try to work with fellow republicans. The GOP in Grundy is stronger than ever and your antics are destructive and only hurt the party. long live free speech
7pm, we only posted one of your spammish comments so as not to be redundant. Besides, they were mean as hell. I mean, c'mon, telling someone to jump off a building so Tracey and the boys on Ashton can scoop up the brains? That's sick. You're lucky we posted one of your comments.
I think their point 9:16 is that those "benefit" charity balls are a chance for the attention whores to be seen so the all the world knows how "charitable" they are. I know what Jennifers charges for meals and rental of that space. Tell me, were any of the needy families there? Have any of the needy families ever been to SB's steak and take? I highly doubt it. They can't afford it. What did Jesus say about charity??? Uh..something on the order of not letting your charitable actions be seen by others? Remember? They would have donated the same amount through a charity donation letter MINUS the expenses of putting on an elaborate drunk, party "ball". But, youre right, theyre apt to give more when the whole world is watching, so everyone can say what great people they are when we know what some of them are like when theyre not being watched by those that count. Hypocrisy. thats all it is.
One more thing 9:16. I DO own a business and I DO give to We Care. I just don't feel I have to parade my good deeds around and go to some "ball" to do it. I saved my $75 and ate at McDonalds that night.
Here it is: Matthew 6
Giving to the Needy
1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 3But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
2:40 if you want to play the religion card perhaps YOU should start with "judge not lest ye be judged"
and just fyi there were needy people who qualify for we care's services there they were treated just like everyone else and fit in better then you'd imagine.
Another fyi I didn't see anyone with an "elaborate drunk on". So yet again we have one speak about something they obviously know nothing about.
I hope you at least put your change in the Ronald McDonald House bin at the McDonald's register where you ate.
November 20, 2007 2:40 AM
You are exactly correct! The same crew that was at the ball are the ones who always are taking photo ops in the MDH. Just promoting themselves. What a joke. My wife and I on Thanksgiving drive to lower Wacker with homemade soup and sandwiches for the homeless. We remain anonymous because that is what Christ has taught us. All phonies at that ball parading around with their money pretending to be generous. Hypocrites!
Remember folks, you learned it here. If you don't follow the one true way of donating money and dare go to an expensive party at the same time, you are an evil hypocrite who should be looked down upon.
;)
They always throw in the "dong judge" passage when their hypocrisy is exposed. Notice how 9:07 claims "there were needy people who qualify for we care's services there they were treated just like everyone else and fit in better then you'd imagine." Oh how wonderful of you 9:07. Arent you the good samaritan to allow these people to "fit in". Ten to one you don't socialize with any of these people and never have outside of your "ball". I doubt if they'd be invited to YOUR house on Thanksgiving or Christmas or any other time of the year. It's so much easier to go to a fancy dress up ball and show the world how wonderful you are, holding a vodka and tonic in your hand and getting your pic taken for CNN and the MDH. Jesus judged hypocrisy (read Matthew 23 sometime) and called it for what it was. I'm not judging you, I'm just calling this for what it really is - hypocrisy.
1:23 and 9:21
I don't drink alcohol there was no vodka and tonic or any other drink in my hand other then water.
Last Thanksgiving I did have a homeless person to my house dining with us at our table I didn't deliver the meal to her on the street I welcomed her in my home and sat her next to my mother the matriarch of our family that is responsible for teaching me charity.
And did you ever think that I might be the one at the ball who is eligible for We Care services? of course you didn't you just sat back in your cozy home and judged me and others that you don't know.
IF you don't care for the judge not lest ye be judged then fine keep calling ME and those giving to a good cause hypocrites while you call yourself a "Christian" and sit there putting down strangers and acting in such a Christ like manner.
Perhaps you should write to MDH and let them know they shouldn't run photographs of anyone who dares have a good time while being charitable maybe they can come grab a photograph of you and your buddies at Claytons or McDonalds.
Now this is the holiday spirit I was hoping for on this blog!
ok 4:06 so YOURE the exception. I'm glad. Honestly, I wasnt referring those comments to YOU personally, since I don't know who YOU are personally...but I DO know some of the others personally and I stand by what I said.
How about the simple and achievable: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
4:06 Where did you find your homeless person in Morris? When you found a homeless woman, did you take steps to find her clean, safe shelter? clean clothes? help her find a job? get her psychological help?
After Thanksgiving dinner where she sat next to your mother, did you take her back to her cardboard box? Where did you take her?
These are just questions, not attacks, by the way. I am just curious, not judging.
It's the plight of the infamous "chreasters", those who are great Christians during Christmas and Easter (and Thanksgiving), but go on and about their daily affluent lives the rest of the year. It's a great ego feed not to mention a way to earn your "little gold stars" with God.
Yep, hypocrisy
6:15...just to make you aware, there ARE homeless people here in Morris...and there IS an organization...P.A.D.S. that helps the homeless. I find it very sad that here in our small town we have homeless living under the river bridge (fact not fiction) but yet we aren't aware.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!
I'm done with this blog
I went to the "Ball". I had fun with my friends. It was nice to get dressed up and be away from the kids for an evening. Why is everyone making such a big deal about it?
It was just something to do. Now get over it.
6:15
I never said I found the homeless person in Morris not everyone from Morris still lives there and not everyone in Morris lived here a year ago. However there is indeed homeless people in Morris they sleep in staircases and under the bridge when it is cold. When they have a bit of money together they may stay at one of the motels in town but that is not home and they are indeed homeless just happen to have a roof over their head for a few nights. Heck ask one of the county deputies what they do with them when the encounter them. (They escort them out of the county supposedly so they can get to a homeless shelter but perhaps more so the happy people can continue to deny there is a problem in their fair city that needs addressing)
Just in case you are seriously curious and wondering how we helped her we got her into a women's shelter and I got her a job where I worked. She owned clothes and the car she had been staying in or I would have helped with that also.
Unfortunately we have lost touch with her after her second paycheck she left the area saying she was going back to California where she had once lived and still had friends. Whether or not she did we have no idea we have never heard from her again.
I will say that knowing her and helping her taught my family and my children important lessons and my children's Christmas list was much smaller after that.
It's quite humbling to be complaining about bills one day and meet someone that wishes they had a house with bills the next.
10:43 There have been homeless in Morris for many years, and yes, some have lived under the bridge, or in that general area. I know a woman who actually took a young homeless woman into her home and tried to help her in every way. It turned out the young homeless woman had issues with drugs, mental illness, stealing, violence, etc. It ended up being a whole lot more than one would imagine. The young homeless woman did get help from the proper authorities which included a stay in a mental institution, if I remember this correctly. It was at least 20 years ago. There have always been drunks who passed out in doorways in the heat of summer and frozen winter who are not homeless but just couldn't make it home conscious. Sometimes these are people who have a lot of money but are alcoholics.
The questions were directed at 4:06. I still want to know the answers: Where did 4:06 find the homeless person, were any steps taken to aid the homeless person--a shower, clean clothes, shelter, a phone call to PADS? Were steps taken to help the homeless person get a job to lead to self-support? These are legitimate questions.
Did 4:06 take the homeless person back to the cardboard box, shopping cart, whatever?
Seriously, 4:06, what are the answers? The answers could help those of us who are driving around looking for a homeless person we might be able to help. Dontcha think?
it is so good to see that adults in the morris community actually care about what the teens are doing. though it is too bad that it had to come after a band of idiots waved a flag. i grew up in morris, my mom was born and raised and still lives there, i on the other had left, though i have nothing against morris for me it was the idea of raising my daughter and soon to be baby in a town that cares more about politics then our children, i saw it as a student of district 54 and 101, when was in school i know that my friends and i just wanted a safe place to hang out, it didnt matter who ran it. if you turly want to find a soultion for the teens not having a place to go, you need to start with talking to the teens and finding out what they want, and put it together in safe enviorment
19 months and the Morris Police are still without a contract, Mayor and city council you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Did you know today is Thursday November 27th? Check out front page of the MDH
KEVIN FOX IS GUILTY. What father would ever confess to murdering his own daughter, no matter what kind of pressure is on him from the police, IF HE DIDN'T DO IT. Pull out my finger nails or pop out my eyeballs. No father would admit to it... HE KNOWS SOMETHING!
Anyone see the joke that is the Pictorial History of Morris? Did nobody edit this thing?
wow. This site sure got lame in a hurry.
No good rumors around town or what?
my assessment went up 7%!!!! This is total BULLS%&T. I thought the assessment reflected property values, which have leveled off or even dropped. All the assessment reflects is how much more the bureaucrats want of YOUR MONEY.
is the party over?
Wow. This is really really pathetic. Reading these posts I really understand where some of these kids get there ignorance and stupidity from. Parents. And Don't get me wrong, it seems alot of you really care about your kids and really look out for them, but why so many names being called? I'm 17 years old (and I'm sure since I said my age people wont bother to actually read past this point) and I know better than to act so ignorant. Especially behind a computer screen. I feel more mature than the half of the adults on this site. And honestly that just stumps me. I know who ever the "spammer" is, has to be around my age, and if not then that's REALLY ridiculous. But let me just say that you're making yourself look incredibly DUMB. And I'm not name calling here, I'm just pointing it out because it's true. If you want to act so tough and cool post your name. "Anonymous" just makes you out to be a puss. As for teens being bored in this town, it's true, the less there is to do in this town the more every teen out there is tempted to drink or get high. And whether you think your child is a little angel or not, MOST of them aren't. You can keep an eye on them as good as possible and most of them are going to find ways around it. NOT saying all teens are like that. But quite a few. As for you saying not all kids like sports, it's true. But some do. Perhaps get them there sports, but you have to realize that you have to cover art, music, theater as well as sports. And as for XO leaving, it's a real shame. Gayle worked her ass off to create a great environment for kids to hang, whether they had money or not. You could hang there and read, listen to music, and just talk. It gives kids something to do. Not every kid can afford 12 bucks to bowl.. or 7 bucks to go see a movie. Gayle was nice enough to let people come in money or not. She was nice enough to let kids hang, but she had rules and she enforced them. I don't think people understand that. They just hear "hookah" or "alterative" and automatically think it's bad. I'll tell you, I have friends that range from "preppy" to "punk" to "goth" to god knows what else. Just because a person dresses one way doesnt make them bad or good. That's why I dislike this town. It runs off of ignorance. I don't get me started on the "rednecks". They have so much to prove in a town with all white folks. Matt "Clucker" has lived in small town USA his whole life, no, not just morris, but even smaller towns, He hasn't lived around black people. He just learned his bullshit from his grandfather. Who also probably hasn't been around black people. So let's not "Stop Nigs" Lets Stop all the god damned ignorance. It just makes people look STUPID. Very stupid. Yes, this was long. Oh well.
Sorry for not letting the posts rip. We were on vacation.
Anybody know what dan darlington is up to these days?
XO is leaving because the free loaders weren't spending any money.
IS CRINGE YOUR LAST NAME OR IS THAT JUST SIMILIAR TO ANONYMOUS?
OK, so dicky will have Belt submit bills as Bates. I don't have the data. What about all the people that have these figures? Why don't you forward them to the Attorny general and do something?!?!?
12/12 11:27 What are you talking about?
Morris has a well-deserved reputation for corruption and cronysim.
Whoever is robbing these stores is obviously an amateur. They broke both front doors at Snook to gain entry instead of just one---probably a desperate drug dealer.
BTW: I don’t know what you are trying to say about the local media. Hiding something? Come on. The radio station has had something almost everyday since they started happening. Maybe it’s the hamburglar.
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If you havent see this watch it. Its long, but worth it.
they know who is doing all these robberies they just can't catch them!
Wow, noone wants to comment on the robberies? It must be biggera nd deeper then I thought? now we have home invasions too, what's next?
I read the MDH pretty faithfully; i didnt read about no home invasion???? know somethin we don't
It's been on the radio. Not homes, but lots of businesses.
yeah, it happened over on Lisbon Road around 230 in the afternoon. I still haven't heard anyting about it in the press or radio either.
Where on earth did everyone go? Merc?
No blogs seem to be taking place......
Stick a fork in me...this site is DONE.........
hey, how do you all like the newfound graffiti down underneath our river bridge???? thats the kinda crap that happens when you allow gangs into this town
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